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best civic combo
« on: 05:20PM 08/19/2003 »
ok, Ive got a 97 civic EX and I need to know the best combo for the most HP increase.  I'm looking for intake, exhaust, headers and whatever else that could be done to my car for about $1000.  I don't want go with a turbo or SC just yet I would much rather go with other bolt ons first. please specifiy brands and models,  If you got any DYNOed results that would be even better.  THanks

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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #1 on: 05:32PM 08/19/2003 »
If you are thing about ever going the turbo route...don't waste your money on the header and intake.  But, if you are looking at header, intake, and exhaust you'll see close to the same gains with just about any brand.

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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #2 on: 07:45PM 08/19/2003 »
yeah if you goin to want some bolt ons and dont plan on turboingi would go jackson racing supercharger that way you can still use the intake headers ect....
i really like the injen intakes and cant go wrong with dc headers, dragon fire exhaust sound good....but those are just my opionion but pretty much every brand will do the same just matters if you want brand name or not but i know dc comes with lifetime warranty and stuff so its good to spend the money.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #3 on: 01:49AM 08/20/2003 »
Just continue on saving up the money, that way you have options.  With a good ol' I/H/E setup not only will it cost you quite a bit, but you'll be lucky to grab 10-15 hp w/ a civic.
You might not want a turbo or SC YET, but believe me...you will.  If you buy the I/H/E you won't be able to get half of what you paid for if you decide to sell.  I know I didn't when I had to ditch my cold air.
I'd go exhaust cuz either way you're going to need it.  However, wait a bit on the intake and header...just in case you might want some maneuvering room and options later on down the road. :)
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #4 on: 10:36AM 08/20/2003 »
You could always do a swap. And on that swap you can build the motor with cams, cam gears, new manifolds, clutch, of course your exhaust and if you dont want turbo or SC get an intake (it really helps).  Of course You can build the same motor that is in your car also.  If you want to shoot you can.  I got a Civic EX with a Type R swap running 100 shot nitrous.  Shooting helps, but you have to respect it.

If you want a Turbo kit - we can hook you up with a nice one.  My shops Race Car is at 425HP @ 275lbs torque our best time on the track so far has been 11.7sec.  If you want to ever come down and check it out.  You can, we are giving hook up prices right now.

As for nice exhausts, I agree with Mistu on the Dragunfire.  I run that on my Civic right now.  And even when I had the 1.6 SOHC motor it sounded clean and deep as hell.  A good intake would have to be Monster Flow.  They give a deep tone to it and also have lifetime warranty.  You can wash it in your washer.

Anyway, let one of us Speed Techers know if your interested. We are the only distributer for Monsterflow and Dragunfire in Utah.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #5 on: 05:08PM 08/20/2003 »
bolt on's won't do s h i t on a stock motor. if you want power then don't waste your money in I/H/E. you'd probably make more power buying a VAFC and having it dyno tuned than you would with bolt on's, especially with SOHC. keep your money and save up for the turbo or SC.
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« Reply #6 on: 08:46PM 08/20/2003 »
definately go for the turbo set up. A turbo kit for your car can be had for just a little more cash than the bolt on garbage will cost.

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« Reply #7 on: 10:19PM 08/20/2003 »
i would def go down to speed tech and have them hook u up if you want instant power intake exhaust and nitrous lol as long as your careful but you should go down there and check them at and really look into the monsterflow intakes they are really nice.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #8 on: 07:42AM 08/25/2003 »
I have a 99' Ex and I bought a Injen Cold Air intake, DC 4-2-1 Header, and Greddy Evo Exhaust for right about $1000, but thats bc i bought all that off Nopi. But anyway, I've seen pretty good improvement over stock with just those 3 bolt-ons. Haven't dyno'd yet. But my 1/8 times dropped considerably. I used to run 10.8's now i run nearly 10 flat. It could be also that i'm a better driver than i was 5 months ago... But still I know the stuff helped.

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« Reply #9 on: 10:25AM 08/25/2003 »
No offense - but dont listen to that mumbo jumbo "Bolt ons wont do s h i t" .. Bolt ons do a lot.  They open your motor up and let her breath better.  Of course it will make a difference.  Besides - before you even want to THINK about putting a Turbo or SC You want to open her up so she runs stronger. Anyway, Congrats on your intake and exhaust.  And good luck on future mods.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #10 on: 01:33PM 08/28/2003 »
yes, bolt on's do a lot for a motor if you need them.  i.e. you have cams, valvetrain, ported/polished head, intake manifold, etc... with a stock D16Y8, they won't do s h i t, plain and simple. if anything, they'd change the torque and HP curves, and not always for the better. i'd be surprised if you got more than 5 or 6whp on the top end from that $1,000. they're a great investment if you plan to build your motor in the future, but not something to buy if you want to create more power on a stock motor.

no offense, i'm just stating the facts.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #11 on: 07:53PM 08/28/2003 »
no offense btown...bolt on's do help the air flow...you don't need everything else you listed to see a difference i.e. cams, port/polished head.  In my integra I was running low 16's -- 16.2 with just bolt on's -- CAI, header, and cat-back...oh yeah this is an LS integra...now you going to tell me that they don't do jack...whatever.

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« Reply #12 on: 02:36PM 08/31/2003 »
Thank you for restating my point Twinner.
No offense aswell Btown - but they do make a difference
All cars come from the factory with all kinds of restrictions that dont allow your car as much power as it could have.  Everyone knows how a motor works and one out of the 3 necessary things is air. i.e. intake.  Your exhaust helps aswell by allowing the air to flow better from your motor.  However an Exhaust tip wont do s h i t.  You'd need from the cat back. Then headers aswell.
Bolt ons do ALOT.  You may not think so, but I always notice a difference when added.  It may not be a HUGE difference, but there is one.  
Another example is if your breathing was restricted, you wouldn't be able to perform good. If you had less restrictions in your breathing abilities - you work better.

Anyway - thats my double 2 cents.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #13 on: 01:32PM 09/01/2003 »
i know that bolt on's increase air flow. but why would you need to increase the air flow on a stock motor? you would see a slight gain because of the factory restrictions, but i HIGHLY doubt enough to put an LS integra into the low 16's. i don't mean to start an argument, but its a proven fact that bolt on's don't create the kind of power people think they do. you will not see the power from an intake, header, and exhaust untill you build your motor and need the air flow. the majority of dyno sheets that i've seen only show around a 10hp gain with I/H/E. that's a lot of money to spend on 10hp, and those are on B16A's and B18C's. everyone "notices" a difference when they put something new on their car, that's one of the biggest cliche's ive ever heard. like i said before, they're a great investment if you're building your motor, but nothing i would call a power maker.

if this kid want's to turbo or S/C his car, i'd suggest saving the money for that so he doesn't waste it on something that he's going to have to sell later on.
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Re:best civic combo
« Reply #14 on: 04:12PM 09/01/2003 »
Don't doubt or call me a liar...if you don't have proof that I didn't I would keep your trap shut...I have the time slip, our friends have the video, I raced my friend on that run, and I had at least ten people who were there that night to see us race.  

Oh, if you are going to SC your car you'll still want to get an intake and cat-back exhaust.