Author Topic: twin turbo w12? (Read 4464 times)

Night Angel424 · « **on:** 08:47AM 05/28/2003 »

im probably making an a s s outa myself by asking this but what exactly is a stock 6.0 liter twin turbo w12? other than a nice engine... lol

BnLake · « **Reply #1 on:** 08:56AM 05/28/2003 »

12 cylinders. the block is shaped so the pistons are making a w shape instead of a v shape... um... yea that basically explains it

Jer · « **Reply #2 on:** 09:02AM 05/28/2003 »

I am taking it that you have read the website I told you then? But Brian is exactly right.

BnLake · « **Reply #3 on:** 09:03AM 05/28/2003 »

wanna know what that means? TWO CAM SHAFTS! MMMM HORSEPOWER!!! BIG BONER!!! lol

Night Angel424 · « **Reply #4 on:** 09:06AM 05/28/2003 »

basically its a v12 but a w. ahh i get it.. kinda figured it would have to be DOHC

Jer · « **Reply #5 on:** 01:25PM 05/28/2003 »

You could get away with making it a SOHC, but it would take a lot more design than a DOHC would.

Mar_DC2 · « **Reply #6 on:** 09:43PM 05/28/2003 »

i thought a W engine is two blocks vertically opposed to create one, not shaped like a W. but maybe i'm wrong. i read about this buggati with a quad turbo W16 engine, it was two vertically opposed V8 blocks that were forged together to make one, just looked like one big V16. there was only one shot of the engine though so i couldnt really get a good look at it.

OverLord · « **Reply #7 on:** 11:42PM 05/28/2003 »

here is what the deck would look like on a W-8 well fairly close. Instead of placing the cylinders side by side they offset each one to save space.

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Night Angel424 · « **Reply #8 on:** 09:29AM 05/29/2003 »

ahh that makes more sense, the first pic didnt load though, what was that of? thanks overlord.

Jer · « **Reply #9 on:** 09:52AM 05/29/2003 »

guess I was way off then. lol

BnLake · « **Reply #10 on:** 12:09PM 05/29/2003 »

wait... I thought... well no that makes more sense. lol nevermind

Juddidiah · « **Reply #11 on:** 04:05PM 05/29/2003 »

A very impressive motor even in it's infancy.

This concept car broke the 24 Hour indurance record for the most distance covered in 24 hours: 4402.8 miles at an average speed of 183.45MPH breaking the Corvette ZR1's record by 7.5MPH.

http://www.supercars.net/garages/marcusmv3/56v2.html

OverLord · « **Reply #12 on:** 07:59PM 05/29/2003 »

here is a better pic from VW's site

Also here are the pistons, which I thought were an interesting design.

BnLake · « **Reply #13 on:** 09:50PM 05/29/2003 »

ok that makes a LOT more sense! I looked at the basic diagram and was like... I am still not understand it lol

OverLord · « **Reply #14 on:** 10:05PM 05/29/2003 »

Yeah my drawing was quick so it did not give a great example.

Jer · « **Reply #15 on:** 07:18AM 05/30/2003 »

I wonder what the purpose of putting the piston tops at an angle. very interesting.

BnLake · « **Reply #16 on:** 09:52AM 05/30/2003 »

It keeps the fluid level in a cylinder shape... That way you don't have this little amount of gasoline on this side of the cylinder.. make sense?

Night Angel424 · « **Reply #17 on:** 10:02AM 05/30/2003 »

ahh i c. stupid cars, never run right...

Jer · « **Reply #18 on:** 10:15AM 05/30/2003 »

Quote from: OsKaR on 09:52AM 05/30/2003

It keeps the fluid level in a cylinder shape... That way you don't have this little amount of gasoline on this side of the cylinder.. make sense?

The purpose of an internal combustion engine is to burn the fuel and air. I am pretty sure if you don't burn it, boom, sorry charlie. next guess?

BnLake · « **Reply #19 on:** 12:32PM 05/30/2003 »

Think about it.... It will have an even amount of fluid in a cylinder shape... yea it explodes, but it has to be an even amount all around within the cylinder

Jer · « **Reply #20 on:** 12:34PM 05/30/2003 »

but the problem with that is it will have a more sideways push on the piston than a flat one with a directly downward force.

BnLake · « **Reply #21 on:** 12:35PM 05/30/2003 »

German design... but guess what.. it works! lol and for some reason it works well

Jer · « **Reply #22 on:** 12:36PM 05/30/2003 »

I am willing to bet if they leved it out, it would probably work better, considering it would make a larger volume, and therefore more power.

OverLord · « **Reply #23 on:** 06:55PM 05/30/2003 »

Quote from: Dark Dragon on 12:36PM 05/30/2003

I am willing to bet if they leved it out, it would probably work better, considering it would make a larger volume, and therefore more power.

DD look at the pic if the piston was flat they would have less of the force being used to turn the crank. Instead the pistons would be pushed into the cylinder wall. With the angled pistons the force of the combustion is pushing directly down on the piston turning the crank instead of causing more friction.

pete · « **Reply #24 on:** 12:35AM 05/31/2003 »

each bank uses a single cylinder head, therefore the pistons have to have a 15 degree bevel to keep the deck surface flat. otherwise you'd be dealing with a head that has a 15 degree angle down the middle, which would lie directly in some of the cylinders, so it would have to alternate back and forth, and be very expensive and hard to get them to seal... think about it...

if they were just flat you could get very little compression, as the squish would be normal on one side and huge on the other, it wouldn't work at all.

Jer · « **Reply #25 on:** 07:08AM 05/31/2003 »

I don't agree with OL, but Petey helped me understand it a lot better last night.

OverLord · « **Reply #26 on:** 10:43AM 05/31/2003 »

Quote from: pete on 12:35AM 05/31/2003

as the squish would be normal on one side and huge on the other, it wouldn't work at all.

DD that is what I said in different words. Why dont you agree with what I said?

pete · « **Reply #27 on:** 11:35PM 06/01/2003 »

cause he wants to brawl lerically yo! lol

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